Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

i bet it will soon be pugged like MC


i really hope that nost will release everything pre nerf state

That's partially true -- I recall PUG raids could down Skeram on Deathwing-US. Royal Family not too hard, if you do it an "easy" way. Battleguard Sartura and Fankriss are not too complicated for a PUG. The PUG-Killer will be Huhuran, and on the off-chance a PUG manages to brute force down Huhu, they ain't getting past Twin Emperors.

PUGs clearing the Spider-wing and Instructor Razuvius will happen, too.

By pre-nerf, do you mean unkillable C'thun?

Cousy wrote:By pre-nerf, do you mean unkillable C'thun?

look up what a bug fix and nerf means




nost is the only real try at vanilla we'll get. i really hope they don't mess up and make the content pugable. that really isn't what vanilla wow is supposed to be about.

vanilla was so awesome because it was a complete game.. not an "expansion" that you had to make sure the entire player base got to play through.

please dont mess up nost

Cousy wrote:By pre-nerf, do you mean unkillable C'thun?

agreed - there's a difference between fixing an unkillable boss (LOL @ Tentacle spawn in C'Thun's stomach) and nerfing it down from very hard to doable by most guilds:

"In its first inception, C'Thun was considered to be unbeatable with the current level of gear. However, following a number of hot fixes, phase two was made considerably more controllable, and the first kills were registered in a matter of hours following one such hot fix."
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/C%27Thun

Molten Core could use a difficulty buff. Even if non-blizzlike. It was designed for 1.0 talents after all. Add in more abilities to the bosses. It will have the double benefit of making all the decade long guides useless so people have to learn and strategize on their own.

Besides C'thun, everything in AQ is easy.

Unless its released broken, it will be cleared by more than one guild during the first week of release.

After a few months, PUGs will start, just like naxx will be pugged.

Well, since most of nature res gear isn't available until 1.11...

AQ will be ~same as BWL.
But still its toooo long instance for pugs(I bet fastest AQ40 clear will be ~1.5-2hr, and average guild clear ~3-4hr, so pugs will need TOOOO MUCH TIME FOR IT)
Maybe 1-2 really good pugs will farm 8/9 or even 9/9, but not more.
Naxx is more puggable than AQ40 because of its size and lots of trash=need time + req prettyy good NR gear.

Ana wrote:Well, since most of nature res gear isn't available until 1.11...

The NR requirement was never a thing, rather it really wasn't needed. Even back in vanilla I think the most I used was +45 from gear. We used NR pots mostly. NR is really only important for half the raid when you fight Huhuran.