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Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:18 am
by Belzemuth

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:20 am
by Corked
Really just a poorly reasoned collection of arguments against opening legacy servers. I'll paraphrase the entire article:

  • Definition of the word "nostalgia"
  • Several paragraphs of drivel, essentially "You think you do, but you don't"
  • Quote from Battle.net EULA
  • Implication that the Battle.net EULA is law (??)
  • "Legacy servers aren't financially feasible, because Blizzard must have done research indicating such or we would already have them!"

I'll never understand these people that want to deprive others of something even though it doesn't affect them.

  • Definition of the word "marriage"
  • Several paragraphs of drivel, essentially "You think you're gay, but you're not"
  • Quote from the bible
  • Implication that the bible is law (??)
  • "Gay marriage isn't feasible, because we would already have it if there wasn't something wrong with it!"

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:35 am
by Leahs
2011.
"We realize that some of you feel that World of Warcraft was more fun in the past than it is today, and we also know that some of you would like nothing more than to go back and play the game as it was back then. The developers however prefer to see the game continuously evolve and progress, and as such we have no plans to open classic realms or limited expansion content realms."


So, we as fans are neglected to have fun because of the developers. They know they would be out of a job if previous expansions were more popular than the trash that's produced today. I don't have any intention on playing their version of WoW. I'll continue to play what I want.

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:14 am
by Sallerius
I'll never understand these people that want to deprive others of something even though it doesn't affect them.
This. And that comes from wow players damn it...

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:21 am
by Overtime
I think the Warcraft movie is Blizzard's last chance. Aren't they giving wow with 30 days free when you buy movie tickets? It might reach a lot of new players.

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:38 am
by Thefilth
Overtime wrote:I think the Warcraft movie is Blizzard's last chance. Aren't they giving wow with 30 days free when you buy movie tickets? It might reach a lot of new players.


3 days to level up, 27 days to get full Mythic BIS raidgear from your Garrison.
Then you can quit and get another 30 days for the next expansion with the next movie.

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:36 am
by Winterflaw
Corked wrote:I'll never understand these people that want to deprive others of something even though it doesn't affect them.


A fundamental aspect of human nature, present in all of us - you and me and the reader - is that we use our intellect to justify *what we already feel*.

Feelings however are involuntary; *they happen to us*. We do not choose them; we *experience* them. We cannot, for example, decide to fall in love.

These guys, something inside them doesn't like the idea of Vanilla - everything else that you've read is I think simply a searching in the mind for reasons to justify that feeling.

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:29 pm
by mathgod50
They practically are socialists. They don't want to work to receive their epic gear they want it handed to them. They don't want to level up their professions, they want to have every profession this way they don't have to do anything. Their mind set is "it's not fair that this guy spent 4 months leveling his blacksmithing and he has a better weapon than me, I want it too" and blizzard caters to this idea. Not only is this ideology wrong, it destroys world of warcraft, and ultimately the entire country.

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:03 pm
by Faustz
mathgod50 wrote:They practically are socialists. They don't want to work to receive their epic gear they want it handed to them. They don't want to level up their professions, they want to have every profession this way they don't have to do anything. Their mind set is "it's not fair that this guy spent 4 months leveling his blacksmithing and he has a better weapon than me, I want it too" and blizzard caters to this idea. Not only is this ideology wrong, it destroys world of warcraft, and ultimately the entire country.


Can't we really stop this line of thought. I really enjoy Vanilla for it's merits and I like that leveling and dungeons are the core of the WoW experience, but especially today it's considerably easier than live.

Yes you receive raid gear and epic quality gear at a slower pace which on the whole I think it a good thing, because it makes each upgrade more meaningful, however even epic gear is often a poorly itemized mess that's not really helpful to progression.

For example, if you are a warlock you can literally get 300 tailoring and craft bloodvine in roughly a week or two. And then you have pretty much the best chest, legs, and boots you can get till T3. That's literally nuts. Plus lets not forgot that Nef died within hours of release to multiple guilds. Imagine if when BRF launched you could craft gear that was only surpassed by mythic HFC gear or if Mythic Imperator has died within hours of release. There would be riots, and people decrying that raiding is pointless and WoD sucks and WoW is super casual now, etc. etc. Yes you get tons of purples from Tannan Jungle, but mathematically that gear is nowhere near epic quality and it's really just a color.

Again, vanilla is an amazing experience and I have certainly enjoyed my time on Nost, but I don't think this argument is either accurate in modern times or helps promote legacy servers.

Re: Very Interesting post at MMORPG.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:16 pm
by Bradley
Corked wrote:Really just a poorly reasoned collection of arguments against opening legacy servers. I'll paraphrase the entire article:

  • Definition of the word "nostalgia"
  • Several paragraphs of drivel, essentially "You think you do, but you don't"
  • Quote from Battle.net EULA
  • Implication that the Battle.net EULA is law (??)
  • "Legacy servers aren't financially feasible, because Blizzard must have done research indicating such or we would already have them!"

Well maybe is just me but nostalgia doesnt last 1 year, and if so, its something to keep in mind on what people really want.
Blizzard imho have a little part in all of this, the Ceo of blizzard-activision on other hand and all the dirigents can't care less about what ppl want, and it's more about the money, they want to profit 300% of the expense, at least, and if its not like that its not worth doing