Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

Has anyone heard anything about an official statement? If there has been any sort of response to the backlash, I have not seen it. I heard rumors that they were supposed to release one last night, but those were obviously false. It's been nearly a week since the shutdown announcement, and still silence.

Nost staff: Have any of you heard anything from Blizzard (and not their lawyers)?

The continued silence on Blizzard's part makes me worried they are going to win this battle. They are experts at ignoring things until they go away, and it looks like the uproar is already in the decline.

Groza wrote:Has anyone heard anything about an official statement? If there has been any sort of response to the backlash, I have not seen it. I heard rumors that they were supposed to release one last night, but those were obviously false. It's been nearly a week since the shutdown announcement, and still silence.

Nost staff: Have any of you heard anything from Blizzard (and not their lawyers)?

The continued silence on Blizzard's part makes me worried they are going to win this battle. They are experts at ignoring things until they go away, and it looks like the uproar is already in the decline.

A lot of us want a short term solution to this fiasco (myself included) but the truth is it just doesn't work that way. If change will happen then it will happen over time.

To be quite honest, I don't really want to chase Blizzard and fight them in their domain. They're a billion dollar corporation (that happens to sell games), if I'm going to be honest I get out my frustration by working on my own game, 90% of my game time in Nostalrius was analysis and deconstruction for my own nefarious purposes (still incredibly fun) and this event has given me quite a lot of juice to push for the next build.

For now that's all I can take away from the aftermath.

Edit: I recently checked the WoW forums and all the threads complaining about vanilla on GD and N&RP (on NA) have been wiped, it's so easy for them to wipe away anything they don't want to hear so you can't confront them in their territory (so it seems) at least not effectively without an overwhelming and lasting movement.

blizzard made a statement..

they wiped all posts out about legacy server or nostalrius.. an locked or ban all players that post something about it...

in 3-4 weeks all is over and they posting more of they legion announcment shit..
Sad but true.. there will never bee something like legacy server..

Veydron wrote:blizzard made a statement..

they wiped all posts out about legacy server or nostalrius.. an locked or ban all players that post something about it...

in 3-4 weeks all is over and they posting more of they legion announcment shit..
Sad but true.. there will never bee something like legacy server..

lol dude

Blizzard is dying. All of this opposition is their last tactics against holding back having to make another nuclear bomb of a comment on this.

Blizzard will have to release legacy servers. At least a million players want it. Millions are leaving their game so that they dont post subscrib numbers any more. Insiders are dumping stocks faster than a 2:1 ratio.

And since Blizzard has killed the saints of Vanilla(Nostalrius) and refused to listen to their dying cries. All thats going to happen is another server that will play hardball with Blizz will pop up dodge C&D for years and get so many members that retail looks weak as it really is.

In the EU someone said they did a numbers count on the 110 servers they had and came up with over 30k players on peak times during the day for ALL servers. We on nost had a free team which in their free time could handle nearly 18-20k players. Theres a guy on here saying he can handle 45k with ease by server splitting.

Who knows how dirty the new server will be? Donations? Cosmetic shop? Race/faction change shop? They could make millions and rogue rape Blizzard. Hell they might even employ crooked techniques to get the license in their name and start suing Bliz to eliminate competition.

As Forbes said, Blizzard's actions here we're unwise.

People feel for vanilla. And thats what comes before action

Reserverue wrote:
Blizzard is dying. All of this opposition is their last tactics against holding back having to make another nuclear bomb of a comment on this.

Blizzard will have to release legacy servers. At least a million players want it. Millions are leaving their game so that they dont post subscrib numbers any more. Insiders are dumping stocks faster than a 2:1 ratio.

You can't be serious.
Blizzard is dying?

They are making so much money of Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm and Overwatch. You seem to be under the impression that Blizzard is WoW and WoW alone.
People are throwing their money at their shitty free to play games and they probably spent jack shit developing them, except Overwatch, thats a big investment for them.

Sure they would make more money with a legacy server, but saying that Blizzard is in any kind of financial trouble or even remotly entertaining the idea is ludicrous to say the least.

Blizzard is not dying.

More likely they have looked at market trends and the costs and benefits, and they have decided that just don't want to be in the "true" MMO business any more, and even if they did there's a lot of practical problems [and not much money] in resurrecting vanilla. Once they start to move their skill-set in that direction, it becomes less and less likely they will turn it around. Maybe in 10 years time when trends are different.

So I think there's a distinct possibility here that Blizzard will continue to defend their copyright and continue the direction of travel of retail WoW. As others have said, HOTS, Hearthstone, Overwatch are their big games now, with better margins.

Realistically, maybe we should leave them to it, and hope someone can use the mangos software [for example] to build a new game as Protego suggests here:

http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=43489

I wonder how many would play.

Answering the OP question "Any word from Blizzard?"

Sure they responded loud and clear.
They gave the go ahead to their mods to do a clean sweep and remove any mention of the issue from their forums and any media they control.

Even threads with a reasoned, polite and articulate OP that were met with overwhelmingly positive responses
(Blizz MVPs and players opposing the idea of legacy servers included) have been terminated with extreme prejudice.

Example
Confessions of a private server player.
Google cache version:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... 7610923829

Today's version:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17610923829

So yea I'd say the ball is unequivocally on Nostalrius team court, Blizzard's actions speak for themselves.
I agree with Veydron on that 100%.
The only question remaining imho is "will Nostalrius move ahead with what they described in their letter to the community?"
Or are we in for a month or two of waiting for an official statement from Blizzard, while the Nostalrius community keeps fragmenting further?

TBH Blizzard are not going to be working on legacy servers any time soon because they are developing and putting all their resources into Legion.

Maybe if they get their heads out of their arses after the Legion development they might conciser legacy servers. But to think that they'll even look into legacy servers so soon to their next expansion being launched is quite silly.

There isn't much to look at. They could just give Nost team a green light and have some sort of contract or w/e.

Lyrix wrote:There isn't much to look at. They could just give Nost team a green light and have some sort of contract or w/e.

license the vanilla content/client to the nost devs