Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

This thread speaks for itself.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743104755


A lot of the nay-sayers are getting 1+, meanwhile people like us are getting down voted into oblivion.


Very closed minded bunch and it's a shame.

And...burned.Like most stuff with this subject on us forums.So much of freedom of speech

It would be the opposite if we could register for free on official wow forums and post, we are campaigning for a choice, the fanboy sheep are defending a brand.

The anti-piracy pro-big companies and conservatism overall is very strong in the US compared to Europe. That is why they get away with closing all the topics on that forum while the EU forum feel they have to keep a few topics up and running.

Need re-sub to join the conversation which i won't, hence why most topics are one sided.
#fanboys

Some good post too :
We're no longer heroes.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17611011067

Noxm wrote:Some good post too :
We're no longer heroes.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17611011067

Damn this one is great!

Sallerius wrote:And...burned.Like most stuff with this subject on us forums.So much of freedom of speech

Freedom of speech only happens in very, very rare occasions historically speaking.
Corporations are notoriously bereft of civil reponsibility. That's why gaming companies behind MMOs are perfectly willing to prevent the rest of the world from ever again being able to reproduce the past, or bother with any concern other than chasing revenue.

Jason Scott, the founder of Internet Wayback Machine put it cleary:
http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/6/8158649 ... et-archive

I think this is the case with pritty much ALL the games these days. I was watching a video yesterday where somebody was talking about an old school game, Dungeon Keeper. I used to play the crap out of that game, and even if the sequel was a bit meh I still played the crap out of that one.
A few years ago EA released a mobile version of the game saying it was a worthy sequel to the series... It was horrible, your typical mobile game with nothing but "pay this amount" and you don't have to-do anything. Many games today suffer from the same problem. It's all about how much money a game can make...
The death of WoW stared when Blizzard got acquired by Activision. Activision saw that actually a huge number of people were playing wow on a very casual level and started to tailor the game to them. Even if the hardcore players, who are very passionate about the game, have the biggest voice and are the ones who fuel the comunity, they stared to become the minority (in subscriber numbers) as more and more casual players came to the game. Those casual players only had one argument; "I'm paying 15 dolars per month on this game, I have the same right to see all the content as the hardcore players".
Now I'm not going into a debate of hardcore vs casual players but I'm 100% sure ActiBlizzards focus is to tailor to those people who play very few hours per month. You'd be surprised how many people out there only play an hour per week, even perhaps just a handful of hours per month. Yet for Blizz that's just the same 15 dollar in their Pocket so why would they care about the hardcore players :p.
I'm pritty sure that today there are still a few developers at Wow Blizzard that cry out each time they come home. They want to make the game like it used to be, challenging, yet each time they make the proposal, Activision says NO if they think it can't make money. And even if today Blizzard would tailor the game more towards the Hardcore player again (like they are trying with Legion) they have pritty much lost their credibility and won't be able to get the community back.

It's like with so many things in life today. A passionate group of people create something, then it gets so popular they become too big and need to get the big companies involved. Those big companies only are interested in making the shareholders happy...

I'm moving to Mars as soon as I can :p.

Shouldnt be surprising, blizzard changed target audiences a long time ago.

The majority of the playerbase now hates anything rpg, and everything that the game was originally made to be.

I cant blame them, they existed back in vanilla/bc even cata too, and I ridiculed them daily and made their lives miserable because they play like shit, cant grasp basic mechanics and ofc my favorite- just fucking wildly invent random mechanics that suit their explaination of why they constantly die for stupid fucking reasons, then rage when your group doesnt dance around like monkeys to play along with their imagined mechanics.

There was one prot paladin on my server on live who spent the entirety of cata bitching in trade that heroics were too hard and grim batol was impossible to beat because of the first boss.
Alllll of cataclysm. Couldnt pass first boss in H Grim Batol.

These are the people blizzard caters to now. A side effect of being borderline retarded is that they have 0 standards and happily hand money to blizzard hand over fist on top of sub fees to buy gold and the latest shiney thing from tbe cash shop.

How can we compete with that? Tbh I really dont want to

The golden age is probably just over, most companies probably know exactly the lessons blizzard has learned and will follow suit. Plus games like wildstar that supposedly 'cater to us' have failed spectacularly. Though, personally I blame that on other things.. didnt even make it max level before losing interest

Still, I think. Blizzard would be stupid at this point to not enable legacy servers. If its included with regular sub that would get more people playing live- and give live players something to do during the standard 18 month no content streak before expansions

..wait, shit, thats usually the time blizzard uses to sell a new overhyped game that will only be interesting for a month. Oh well