Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

Posted: **Thu May 05, 2016 10:52 pm**

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/728327316292542465

The survey on character models opened up a good question. How much should Blizzard change/add to legacy?

I voted not at all.

Once Blizz starts changing stuff, we're gonna be going down a slippery slope...

Posted: **Thu May 05, 2016 11:01 pm**

But changes will be needed once support is happening. At first, I think should be as vanilla as possible. Then, natural fixes and probably some changes (example specs that didnt work as spected) will make a better game. After all, not all changes were for worse all those years. But those changes should be at far future, because Vanilla should demostrate by itself why was great. And maybe can affect the future for retail WoW itself.

Posted: **Fri May 06, 2016 3:52 am**

Vanilla is Vanilla, with all it's imperfections and all. All the nickel and dime "fixes" are what eventually led us to what WoW is now. I just know if Blizzard actually goes through with making Legacy servers that they won't be able to resist changing things that will defeat the entire purpose of people wanting Legacy servers. I'm not taking part in any more online petitions or polls unless it says that Blizzard will keep its hands off our vanilla servers.

Posted: **Fri May 06, 2016 5:28 am**

Naitguolf wrote:But changes will be needed once support is happening. At first, I think should be as vanilla as possible. Then, natural fixes and probably some changes (example specs that didnt work as spected) will make a better game. After all, not all changes were for worse all those years. But those changes should be at far future, because Vanilla should demostrate by itself why was great. And maybe can affect the future for retail WoW itself.

So you want to destroy vanilla? I dont see any point in changing stuff that has anything to do with the game itself, the only things that would need patching is to make the game run on all new hardware and operating systems etc, changing game content in any way makes it NOT vanilla -.-

Posted: **Fri May 06, 2016 5:30 am**

Naitguolf wrote:But changes will be needed once support is happening. At first, I think should be as vanilla as possible. Then, natural fixes and probably some changes (example specs that didnt work as spected) will make a better game. After all, not all changes were for worse all those years. But those changes should be at far future, because Vanilla should demostrate by itself why was great. And maybe can affect the future for retail WoW itself.

No. The only change that should happen is Bnet2 integration. That's it. Nothing else, or else it's not vanilla.

If you were a true vanilla fan you wouldn't even be asking for those things. Don't give Blizzard an excuse to say no.

Posted: **Fri May 06, 2016 5:36 am**

Hydra9268 wrote:[

No. The only change that should happen is Bnet2 integration. That's it. Nothing else, or else it's not vanilla.

If you were a true vanilla fan you wouldn't even be asking for those things. Don't give Blizzard an excuse to say no.

+1 Exactly this

Posted: **Fri May 06, 2016 6:08 am**

Hydra9268 wrote:
Naitguolf wrote:But changes will be needed once support is happening. At first, I think should be as vanilla as possible. Then, natural fixes and probably some changes (example specs that didnt work as spected) will make a better game. After all, not all changes were for worse all those years. But those changes should be at far future, because Vanilla should demostrate by itself why was great. And maybe can affect the future for retail WoW itself.

No. The only change that should happen is Bnet2 integration. That's it. Nothing else, or else it's not vanilla.

If you were a true vanilla fan you wouldn't even be asking for those things. Don't give Blizzard an excuse to say no.

This guy gets it. The moment people start asking for sh*t, Blizzard will say:

"See this is exactly why we can't have legacy servers. We can't dedicate the resources for these changes."

Just give us plain old Vanilla. We don't need any QoL tweaks. If this turns people away, oh well they weren't vanilla players to begin with if minor stuff is enough to ruin the game for them.

Posted: **Fri May 06, 2016 9:54 am**

Yes, I am up for one change, make vanilla wow harder than it was during 2004 (yes 2004 and not 2006 because in 2006 many things were nerfed since 2004 when it was released)

- Leveling should be a bit slower so no 1x xp rates but rather 0.75x or 0.80x xp rates
- Open world mobs should be harder with higher HP, mana, damage and speed attacks, resistances, armor... and they should have improved A.I., especially elite mobs
- All 5 man instances and raids should be way harder and tougher and especially harder and tougher with far better A.I. should be all bosses in these 5 man instances and raids

Posted: **Fri May 06, 2016 10:32 am**

melak wrote:
Naitguolf wrote:But changes will be needed once support is happening. At first, I think should be as vanilla as possible. Then, natural fixes and probably some changes (example specs that didnt work as spected) will make a better game. After all, not all changes were for worse all those years. But those changes should be at far future, because Vanilla should demostrate by itself why was great. And maybe can affect the future for retail WoW itself.

So you want to destroy vanilla? I dont see any point in changing stuff that has anything to do with the game itself, the only things that would need patching is to make the game run on all new hardware and operating systems etc, changing game content in any way makes it NOT vanilla -.-

No, no, I am not saying I want to destroy vanilla. I am seeing how probably stuff will be done. (Because some changes will be needed to be done in order to implement battlenet2 for example, but then again, Vanilla was not compatible to), Those changes will open more stuff to be changed. Besides, if Vanilla turns popular, people will complain how some bugs are here and there, probably from people that didnt play Vanilla, and also people that want those bugs fixed, Anyway, you cannot simply say: those bugs are what vanilla is. A bug is a bug, so patches that indeed change stuff will happen. That's mean a living develop. But also, that's mean more work from Blizzard.

I can understand changes are always needed. The problem is... and will be... how far those changes will go?

You can see for example how Age of Empires HD was implemented on new hardware. New changes and improvement were done.

Posted: **Fri May 06, 2016 11:06 am**

Hydra9268 wrote:No. The only change that should happen is Bnet2 integration. That's it. Nothing else, or else it's not vanilla.

If you were a true vanilla fan you wouldn't even be asking for those things. Don't give Blizzard an excuse to say no.

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