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Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:48 am
by Vaulken
So Blizz devs can play it for the meeting

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:33 am
by Ronix
If the server is still up and if most team is playing their cards right this 50+ days of down time should have given them the chance to go through every possible glitch or problem they did have on the server to polish it into something that won't be picked part by blizz.

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:55 pm
by Hernia
If it were up we'd be able to see the server list when we connected. Quit spreading dumbass rumors. I don't see how blizzard would be interested in their code which is under the GPL. Especially since it was confirmed they still have their source code. If anything, blizz would want to see how they got 15k players on one server.

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:23 pm
by Norjak
You think it is, but it isn't.

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:30 pm
by theluda
Hernia wrote:If anything, blizz would want to see how they got 15k players on one server.

The same way you do it with regular MaNGOS for vanilla these days. It works with proper configuration, decent hardware and fixing a few bugs which cause crashes but are easy to resolve. Some of these are code related others are related to issues in the database where the core lacked error checking. No magic involved, just being able to debug the core, and it also helps e.g. to be able to record client traffic and replay it on development systems to watch bugs in action. Also, tools are free and available for that too.

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:57 pm
by Thefilth
theluda wrote:
Hernia wrote:If anything, blizz would want to see how they got 15k players on one server.

The same way you do it with regular MaNGOS for vanilla these days. It works with proper configuration, decent hardware and fixing a few bugs which cause crashes but are easy to resolve. Some of these are code related others are related to issues in the database where the core lacked error checking. No magic involved, just being able to debug the core, and it also helps e.g. to be able to record client traffic and replay it on development systems to watch bugs in action. Also, tools are free and available for that too.


Kronos runs on mangos too, right?
I hear they've been pretty screwed by the size of their population lately, which is still slim compared to nost. I bet they'd pay yougood cash to fix it for them.

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:15 pm
by theluda
Thefilth wrote:Kronos runs on mangos too, right?
I hear they've been pretty screwed by the size of their population lately, which is still slim compared to nost. I bet they'd pay yougood cash to fix it for them.

What most people do not understand is that most servers run on MaNGOS versions from 2010, same as Nostalrius did. Kronos also does. Easy to see btw as there are characteristic issues to these versions not existent in current MaNGOS. Most of the good stuff was built starting 2013 and the MaNGOS now is so much different and more capable.

There is not much to do, except to use an up to date version from 2016. It has been tested with thousands of players by the team, it works. There are way too many false rumors about MaNGOS and most stem from public servers. Bash what you use to distinguish yourself. Common thing in the scene.

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:37 pm
by Thefilth
theluda wrote:
Thefilth wrote:Kronos runs on mangos too, right?
I hear they've been pretty screwed by the size of their population lately, which is still slim compared to nost. I bet they'd pay yougood cash to fix it for them.

What most people do not understand is that most servers run on MaNGOS versions from 2010, same as Nostalrius did. Kronos also does. Easy to see btw as there are characteristic issues to these versions not existent in current MaNGOS. Most of the good stuff was built starting 2013 and the MaNGOS now is so much different and more capable.

There is not much to do, except to use an up to date version from 2016. It has been tested with thousands of players by the team, it works. There are way too many false rumors about MaNGOS and most stem from public servers. Bash what you use to distinguish yourself. Common thing in the scene.


Every private server runs on MaNGOS, I suppose. Only Nostalrius made it work with 12k people. That makes it pretty clear that MaNGOS is not some kind of common denominator for insanely well-performing servers. I applaud your technical skill and knowledge, that would allow you to replicate what Nostalrius did, but clearly it's not something all private server developers have in common.

Oh and yeah.. I don't mean to bash MaNGOS or anything, ofcourse, without it Nostalrius would probably never have existed. The team behind MaNGOS deserves more credit than it is given, I suppose. Not that I have any clue what is MaNGOS and what is not.

I'm sorry you can't find the credit or applause on these forums, but I hope my nudge at your selfesteem helps a bit. Have a nice day.

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:17 pm
by phyriel
Hernia wrote:If it were up we'd be able to see the server list when we connected. Quit spreading dumbass rumors. I don't see how blizzard would be interested in their code which is under the GPL. Especially since it was confirmed they still have their source code. If anything, blizz would want to see how they got 15k players on one server.


Triggered Lulz.

Re: Nostalrius server secretly still up

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:46 am
by ceoddyn
Legends say there is a hidden space locked away somewhere between the formerly shutdown Nostalrius private world of warcraft servers and the assortment of garbage servers that followed in the wake after its death, a place where a small number of Nost's biggest drama queen names continue to gather together and connect to a well scripted blizz-like PvP server with no pay shop - and, I told you it's a myth, being such a secret place where you must go wandering across the barren wasteland of this battlefield to end up stumbling across it, you will not even find there an overflowing crowd of chinese