This is the only reason....

[Tactician]

First of all this is not bashing thread about the new expansion (yes, i know Blizzard reads this forum as well)

The only reason Blizzard holds back about Legacy is Legion and it's understandable at 100% (profit first), but do you guys honestly believe that this expansion will somehow "save" WoW? Because i don't see how this will ever happen, even if they nerf this... low lvl content being "hard-vanilla-style". This won't prove anything, once you hit lvl 40 or so you'll be able to 1-shot mobs around and not having fun at all once again. Not to mention the raids, or dungeons for that matter.

If Blizzard really wants to save WoW, they should focus on making Legacy and leave Legion and others upcoming expansions as it is. If ppl really wants to play this content then so be it, simply play on Legion or whatever expansion comes next...

BUT... the real problem/fear that Blizzard will face (because this will happen at some point and the company sees it as a real problem), ppl will be fed with this "easy/god mode content" and say... fuck it, going to reroll on Legacy. At least there's some challenge, and even these naysayers about Legacy will join too. And since Blizzard said they won't be making anymore announcements about Sub status of WoW, this will lead to Legacy/Legion balance 60%/40%, or even more in favor for Legacy.

[drabus]

If Blizzard really wants to save WoW, they should focus on making Legacy and leave Legion and others upcoming expansions as it is. If ppl really wants to play this content then so be it, simply play on Legion or whatever expansion comes next...

You are obviously entitled to your opinion, but this is a very narrow point-of-view - and one that is coming on a Vanilla/Legacy tribute forum. Bottom line is that there are still people who actually like the current easy-mode WoW - and people who like legacy. Just like there are people who prefer PvE and those who prefer PvP. Crafting - no crafting.

Bottom line, there are places for all of these niches. And I fully expect Blizzard will make an announcement about adding Legacy servers to their portfolio of games (as a separate title) during BlizzCon in November 2016. And that this would lead to that product going live sometime in 2017.

That is my opinion. Everyone is entitled to one.

[Arucado]

this will lead to Legacy/Legion balance 60%/40%, or even more in favor for Legacy.

I dont know where you get this from. Only a low minority of people would stand playing Vanilla for months.

Retail wow players like retail, only a few would move to vanilla. Most of them would play vanilla for a few days and after hitting lvl 15 they would quit.

Respect Vanilla players, most of them would never play it again due to they have cleared it's content like hundreds time? what is the point? what is even the point if vanilla is stuck in content?

You can only expect 15k people from nostalrius plus some from Retail, assuming that they would play even tho they have to pay every month 13 euros.

Lets say retail wow has 4k million players currently, do you really think 2 millions will pay to play vanilla? Im pretty sure of that (sarcasm)


And to end. 250k people signed the letter for morhaime. Most of them are just non wow players from social webs, followers of streamers like Sodapoppin and a long etc. Blizzard will only release vanilla when Legion fails and retail wow comes to an end.

[Tactician]

this will lead to Legacy/Legion balance 60%/40%, or even more in favor for Legacy.

I dont know where you get this from.

Well it's my guess. Since i watch/read a lot of forums (including officials), youtube comments, reddits, and there's a lot of hype for Legacy for sure. It's not just Nostalrius and tbh not sure why would you guess only we, the Nost players are interested in Legacy?

And when i say Legacy, i mean not just the original WoW, but TBC and WoTLK as well. This, my friend will lead to tons of ppl playing again. 15k you say? More likely (if they put the 2 expansions), will lead to more than 3-4mil ppl playing again. Mark my words, one day you'll revive this thread to tell me i was right about it (IF the forum exists to this day) - lol

[Arucado]

Well, i didn't think about TBC and LK, then it is true, there are a lot of people interested. But most of them don't play anymore, and you don't know if they would be willing to pay for it and how long they would last playing.

What i know is that this costs a lot of money to blizzard, what should they do, releasing every Vanilla, TBC and wotlk content with every patch from time to time?

Besides that, i don't guess, i just know because of many people (most of them friends of mine that still play retail and have played for a long time) don't want old content back, what they want is new content and new things.

Thats why i honestly don't know if blizzard is willing to release legacy servers, and if they do, they probably will when retail is a lost case.

[melak]

Well, i didn't think about TBC and LK, then it is true, there are a lot of people interested. But most of them don't play anymore, and you don't know if they would be willing to pay for it and how long they would last playing.

What i know is that this costs a lot of money to blizzard, what should they do, releasing every Vanilla, TBC and wotlk content with every patch from time to time?

Besides that, i don't guess, i just know because of many people (most of them friends of mine that still play retail and have played for a long time) don't want old content back, what they want is new content and new things.

Thats why i honestly don't know if blizzard is willing to release legacy servers, and if they do, they probably will when retail is a lost case.

AKA a few months after Legion release

[Forcerius]

I don't understand why they can't just host multiple versions of a game. A sub is a sub so who cares why we pay $15 a month as long as we're paying? If it undermines Legion and ruins the "storyline" then get rid of it and do what works.

[Drain]

Hosting every version of WoW is the only thing that will save it. Smart people tried to tell them this for many years, but those people do not work for Blizzard. But in all honesty, they do not care about WoW subs anymore. They moved on years ago and started investing in other games. WoW is a thing of the past for them, just something to milk with expansion boxes until it eventually croaks for good, like an old cow. They're already looking towards the future with Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm, and Overwatch, all of which are making a killing. Now they have a movie out too. I'm not buying any of these, but I'm only 1 person. Millions of others are buying them. Convincing them that there's enough money to bother in hosting older versions of the game is difficult. There obviously is, and they'd get millions of subs coming back, but they view it as money that would have already been spent on their other games as it is. It's why all their entire revenue needs to take a dive this year, and I was hoping it would after they canned Nost. They do not care about retail circling the toilet as long as their other investments are all doing great.

[melak]

Hosting every version of WoW is the only thing that will save it. Smart people tried to tell them this for many years, but those people do not work for Blizzard. But in all honesty, they do not care about WoW subs anymore. They moved on years ago and started investing in other games. WoW is a thing of the past for them, just something to milk with expansion boxes until it eventually croaks for good, like an old cow. They're already looking towards the future with Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm, and Overwatch, all of which are making a killing. Now they have a movie out too. I'm not buying any of these, but I'm only 1 person. Millions of others are buying them. Convincing them that there's enough money to bother in hosting older versions of the game is difficult. There obviously is, and they'd get millions of subs coming back, but they view it as money that would have already been spent on their other games as it is. It's why all their entire revenue needs to take a dive this year, and I was hoping it would after they canned Nost. They do not care about retail circling the toilet as long as their other investments are all doing great.

pretty much, i dont get why everyone seems to think that Overwatch is the best thing ever, it looks mediocre to me - at best! Is everyone starting to see Blizzard like a religion that cannot fail? I never got into D3 as much as i did with D2 either, and Hearthstone you either need to spend a fuck ton of money on or play it as the only game to stay competitive. I wont give blizzard my support (money) unless i see legacy servers, cause at the moment, thats the only thing they got going that would interest me.

[Uidrae]

Hosting every version of WoW is the only thing that will save it.

I have to agree with this. Blizz wanted to attract all audiences, but then they tried to build a "one size fits all" game. It doesn't work. They could bring back a lot of old fans with legacy servers and keep the new kids happy with the Retail version.

Their "divide the player base" argument doesn't hold water. The base is already divided between those that like playing hard and those who like having an "I Win" button. To keep WoW going, they need to stop ignoring the former for the latter.

They traded us in for cash shop kiddies, but now it's time to give something back to the early players. It's really not like we're asking a lot... we just want to be able to play the game we already bought, and loved.