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Looking at what is going on right now, it seems to me that Nos Team's meeting with Blizzard was more like a PR show as opposed to sincere willingness to open up legacy servers...

Maybe it is time to really see that Blizzard had no intention to open up legacy servers, at least on the short run when the legion is still working well for them.

Blizzard keep making the excuse that they are too busy. But for the Blizzard, they could always make such argument that they are busy working on some games, either legion or a new expansion, because that is what they do; they constantly make new games and deliver new contents to retail WOW.

It is not never a good excuse to say that they are too busy to work on legacy server; and it is even a worse excuse to say that they are too busy, and have inadequate time to think through the options to open up the legacy server. They did not have time because they are not willing to commit any time to it, and they would rather spend that time on something else.

If they honestly think they should make one, they can at least say that they want to make one in the future, without a precise release date; but what we see is that they do not want to make the slightest promise to the legacy server community.

This seems to me that they are really just stalling...

I hope I am wrong but I really do not think Blizzard is still the company it used to be, especially after they started to be involved in series of corporate transactions, the most recent one being Activision-Blizzard buying back their shares from Vivendi, owing millions of dollars of debts, which potentially made WOD such a bad expansion since Blizzard wanted to push it into the market as soon as possible to collect cash...

They pretty much sold out when they were bought out by Activision. They claim they're still independent as far as decision making but you can see in everything they have done since then - WoW was gradually watered down & homogenized for mass consumption. I don't blame them from a business standpoint, but by not allowing legacy they are showing the true extent of their profit-driven motivation.

It just goes to show the extent to which they will go to chase a few extra dollars.

it may eventually happen, but not soon. Its all about money and budgets. If they allocate money for this project, it will happen (and would be happening already), if not - then not. Its a corporation, you know, its not like developers are free artist and can do whatever they want or decided to, they got certained tasks, schedules, production cycles and hired for specific jobs, with expected results for money they paid.

So yea. its really simple: blizzard spend money on it, we'll have it, blizzard dont spend money on it(as its now "still discussing the possibility" after 6 monthes while managing 7.1 and blizzcon) - then we wont have it.

So as i said before, i think 300k people wasnt enough for them, to instantly spread and allocate some resourses for this project. I think they calculated it and figured out it isnt that good financially, or at least questinable. made marketing research and so on.

Cos if it would be, they would be doing it, spending money for it. Cos what you can say for sure companies are driven by profits.

btw i think "discussing the possibility" is about this aswell, how can you sell it and which form with what support so it would be profitable and sustainable.

Ppl think blizzard is "so stupid" and its "free money", "why dont you come and take it", i dont think so. If it would be like that, they wouldnt be delaying it that much. (at least it requies alot of calculations and planning to make it work)

pallidio3t wrote:it may eventually happen, but not soon. Its all about money and budgets. If they allocate money for this project, it will happen (and would be happening already), if not - then not. Its a corporation, you know, its not like developers are free artist and can do whatever they want or decided to, they got certained tasks, schedules, production cycles and hired for specific jobs, with expected results for money they paid.

So yea. its really simple: blizzard spend money on it, we'll have it, blizzard dont spend money on it(as its now "still discussing the possibility" after 6 monthes while managing 7.1 and blizzcon) - then we wont have it.

So as i said before, i think 300k people wasnt enough for them, to instantly spread and allocate some resourses for this project. I think they calculated it and figured out it isnt that good financially, or at least questinable. made marketing research and so on.

Cos if it would be, they would be doing it, spending money for it. Cos what you can say for sure companies are driven by profits.

btw i think "discussing the possibility" is about this aswell, how can you sell it and which form with what support so it would be profitable and sustainable.

Ppl think blizzard is "so stupid" and its "free money", "why dont you come and take it", i dont think so. If it would be like that, they wouldnt be delaying it that much. (at least it requies alot of calculations and planning to make it work)

I agree with what you said, but I am just frustrated about this whole PR talk that supposed to make us "feel better" and "calm down." It really did give me hope, but in the end, it was pretty much BS.

Frankly, I dont think they are discussing possibilities now. If they want to seriously consider legacy server as a business option, there are a million ways to do it, like you said. The most expensive way would be too simply hire a consulting firm, like BCG or McKinsey or something. I think there are two possibilities there; one is that they have considered the option, but just not interested in pursuing it; and the other is they just do not care about it enough to even make some time to consider it. And like you said, either way, we are not getting legacy server from Blizzard any time soon...